Alcoholism (Part 4)
Testing Reader Suggestions
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Commentaries on this study
Part 1:
Control Group
Part 2: Jungian Rules
Part 3: C.E.O. Carter Rules
Introduction
The votes are in and tallied. Your suggestions are duly noted. I have
tabulated the results from everyone’s suggestions of which astrological
factors should be significant in alcoholism. Now it's time to make sense
of the numbers. This week we:
- Review all the suggestions.
- Sort the results so the most significant factors come out on
top.
- Begin the discussion of what the numbers mean.
Readers of our earlier alcoholism studies have sent in 40 suggestions for
other factors to test for in an alcoholism AstroSignature. Here is what
you have suggested:
From Marybeth Beechen:
I have seen tight Mars-moon connections, not always hard aspects, in
the chart of alcoholics. You might check out moon in Aries as well.
AstroSignature translation:
1. Mars Con, Sex, Squ, Trine, Inc, Opp Moon
2. Moon in Aries
From Lenore Canter:
I've noticed that, in addition to the Neptunian elements you describe,
there is frequently a disruptive aspect between Uranus and the Sun or Moon
which creates the discomfort of being too tense to access the Neptunian
dream. The alcohol is an attempt to resolve that conflict.
AstroSignature translation:
3. Uranus Squ, Inc, Opp Sun or Moon
From Doug Egan:
There is an excellent and brief discussion of the subject in James (not
Jim) Lewis' Astrological Encyclopedia, where he mentions a study by Ann
Parker. She believes that in addition to the stereotype of Neptune
problems, that the planet Uranus (especially Moon contacts) was often
involved. I have found this to be true, and believe that there are really
two variant types of the alcoholic personality; one with the dreamy,
"crush my ego 'cause I hate myself 'cause I don't fit in 'cause I'm
looking for cosmic wholeness" Neptune type; and the other with the
willful, out of control "f**k you 'cause you don't understand me;
you're all just a bunch of bourgeois a**holes who don't understand what
real fun and excitement are" negative Uranian types. My gut feeling
is that there may be no real "signature" that would leap out at
one, but that it may be likely that there is a significant tendency
towards difficult Neptune and Uranus aspects to major points. What about a
dual Neptune / Uranus sifting? And what about a 3rd type of alcoholic,
perhaps best labeled as the depressive type. Perhaps Moon-Saturn or
Capricorn Moons could be factored in.
AstroSignature translation:
4. Uranus Squ, Inc, Opp Sun-Saturn
5. Uranus Squ, Inc, Opp Moon
6. Uranus and Neptune Squ, Inc, Opp Sun-Saturn
7. Uranus and Neptune Squ, Inc, Opp Moon
8. Moon Squ, Inc, Opp Saturn
9. Moon in Capricorn
From Alicia Keenon:
Pluto in fourth or twelfth house. Neptune conjunct, square, inconjunct
or opposite Moon. Neptune conjunct, square, inconjunct or opposite
Jupiter. Neptune in fourth or twelfth house.
AstroSignature translation:
10. Pluto in 4th or 12th house
11. Neptune conjunct, square, inconjunct or opposite Moon.
12. Neptune conjunct, square, inconjunct or opposite Jupiter.
13. Neptune in 4th or 12th house.
(Thanks for being specific so I don't have to guess what you mean.)
From Pippa:
I remember reading a study by Ann E Parker which showed that a high
number of alcoholics had the Moon in Virgo ~ "also showing chi square
significance are the Midhaven and Mars in Scorpio and the Sun in 8th
house." Interestingly, she adds "showing inverse significance,
is Jupiter in 12th"
AstroSignature translation:
14. Moon in Virgo
15. Midhaven in Scorpio
16. Mars in Scorpio
(I am assuming you don't mean Midheaven and Mars in Scorpio)
17. Sun in the 8th house.
18. Jupiter in 12th house - less among alcoholics
From Simon-Astley Scholfield:
While wary of looking for an AstroSignature for "alcoholism"
(which has diverse manifestations) I suggest you apply your factors 1, 3
and 4 to Sagittarius/Jupiter. I've found Jupiter types can be big
social drinkers while Neptune types can privately drown themselves in the
booze. Moreover, Neptune and/or Jupiter in aspect to Twelfth and Ninth
House rulers and cusps (and their decanate rulers) indicate a potential
for alcohol problems. It shouldn't matter (even in factor 4) whether the
aspects are hard or soft – only that there is a connection. Hard aspects
can challenge people to face up to (and eventually overcome) their
drinking/drug problems especially after easy aspects have allowed them to
deny (and sink further into) them.
AstroSignature translation:
19. Sun, Moon, Ascendant, Ruler of the Ascendant in Sagittarius
(#1)
20. Jupiter on an angle (#3)
21. Jupiter conjunct, sextile, square, trine inconjunct or opposed Sun,
Moon , ASC, or ASC ruler (#4)
22. Neptune conjunct, sextile, square, trine inconjunct or opposed HR9
and HR 12
23. Jupiter conjunct, sextile, square, trine inconjunct or opposed HR9
and HR 12
24. Neptune and Jupiter conjunct, sextile, square, trine inconjunct or
opposed HR9 and HR 12
25. Neptune conjunct, sextile, square, trine inconjunct or opposed HR9
26. Neptune conjunct, sextile, square, trine inconjunct or opposed HR12
27. Jupiter conjunct, sextile, square, trine inconjunct or opposed
HR9
28. Jupiter conjunct, sextile, square, trine inconjunct or opposed HR 12
29. Neptune and Jupiter conjunct, sextile, square, trine inconjunct or
opposed HR9
30. Neptune and Jupiter conjunct, sextile, square, trine inconjunct or
opposed HR 12
Notice that in English the sentence "Neptune and/or Jupiter in
aspect to Twelfth and Ninth House rulers and cusps" is ambiguous. It
could indicate aspects to the 12th and 9th house rules individually or at
the same time. I am testing both. I am also going to assume that Simon-Astley
meant to test modern rulers e.g. Pluto also rules Scorpio. And sorry,
AstroDatabank does not do decante rulers yet.
When working with house rulers one has to deal with of whether or not
to use the modern co-rulers. I tested of all these with just the
traditional rulers. Then I tried all the retested all the rulers that
referenced house rulers but using both the traditional and modern rulers.
These are designated as rules 41-51 and have PS rulers (Primary and
Secondary) at the end of their description.
From Dave Campbell:
How about many planets in the 12th house, or South Node in Pisces or in
the 12th, or Pisces on 4th/10th (mother/father) for an indicator.
Additionally in a chart with high tendencies for alcoholism, I have found
that Asteroids Bacchus, and Dionysus are prominent in their charts.
AstroSignature translation:
31. Sun-Pluto in the 12th house
32. South Node in Pisces
33. South node in the 12th house
Sorry, I can't test Asteroids yet.
From Anonymous:
I have found an Aries Sun with a Taurus moon to produce a very strong
drive to alcohol.
AstroSignature translation:
34. Aries Sun AND Taurus Moon. (Sounds like a generalization from one
particular individual, but we'll test it anyway.)
From Linda L.:
I have frequently seen in charts of alcoholics excessive water signs.
Neptune in hard aspects to the Sun: alcohol heredity from the father.
Neptune in hard aspects to the Moon: alcohol heredity from the mother
Neptune in hard aspects to the ascendant: alcohol addict. The signs Pisces
naturally. (Already tested in Part 1 rules 1&3)
AstroSignature translation:
35. Sun-Saturn, As, MC in Water
36. Neptune square, opposed or inconjunct Sun
37. Neptune square, opposed or inconjunct Moon
38. Neptune square, opposed or inconjunct ASC
From Claire Cabeza de Baca:
When I first began my study of the stars over 20 years ago, I read that
Neptune retrograde in the 1st house pointed to one's self-undoing through
alcohol and/or drug abuse.
AstroSignature translation:
39. Neptune in the 1st house and Retrograde
From Michael Naylor, M.Ed, LSAC
I am a practicing substance abuse counselor and also a full time
astrologer in Maine. I study the charts on men who come through our
Half-Way House, and it is interesting to see how often they reflect a
Neptune/Sun/Moon configurations, or a Neptune/Chiron configuration.
I have found almost no correlation with sign of Pisces however, and in
addition, have found that Pluto/Sun configurations show up quite
frequently.
AstroSignature translation:
(Rule 36.) Neptune conjunct, square, opposed or inconjunct Sun
(Rule 37.) Neptune conjunct, square, opposed or inconjunct Moon
40. Neptune conjunct, square, opposed or inconjunct Chiron
The Results
| Rule |
Factors |
Pct in Alcoholics |
Pct in Control |
Diff. |
| 1. |
Mars Con, Sex, Squ, Trine, Inc, Opp Moon |
26 |
17 |
9 |
| 2. |
Moon in Aries |
8 |
7 |
1 |
| 3. |
Uranus Squ, Inc, Opp Sun or Moon |
32 |
13 |
19 |
| 4. |
Uranus Squ, Inc, Opp Sun-Saturn |
61 |
30 |
31 |
| 5. |
Uranus Squ, Inc, Opp Moon |
21 |
7 |
14 |
| 6. |
Uranus and Neptune Squ, Inc, Opp Sun-Saturn |
5 |
5 |
0 |
| 7. |
Uranus and Neptune Squ, Inc, Opp Moon |
2 |
1 |
1 |
| 8. |
Moon Squ, Inc, Opp Saturn |
12 |
8 |
4 |
| 9. |
Moon in Capricorn |
9 |
8 |
1 |
| 10. |
Pluto in 4th or 12th house |
16 |
16 |
0 |
| 11. |
Neptune conjunct, square, inconjunct or opposite Moon. |
24 |
10 |
14 |
| 12. |
Neptune conjunct, square, inconjunct or opposite
Jupiter. |
18 |
8 |
10 |
| 13. |
Neptune in 4th or 12th house. |
21 |
18 |
3 |
| 14. |
Moon in Virgo |
7 |
8 |
-1 |
| 15. |
Midhaven in Scorpio |
8 |
8 |
0 |
| 16. |
Mars in Scorpio (I am assuming you don't mean
Midheaven and Mars in Scorpio) |
11 |
9 |
2 |
| 17. |
Sun in the 8th house. |
7 |
8 |
-1 |
| 18. |
Jupiter in 12th house - less among alcoholics |
5 |
9 |
-4 |
| 19. |
Sun, Moon, Ascendant, Ruler of the Ascendant in
Sagittarius (#1) |
29 |
30 |
-1 |
| 20. |
Jupiter on an angle (#3) |
16 |
9 |
7 |
| 21. |
Jupiter conjunct, sextile, square, trine, inconjunct
or opposed Sun, Moon , ASC, or ASC ruler (#4) |
70 |
38 |
32 |
| 22. |
Neptune conjunct, sextile, square, trine, inconjunct
or opposed HR9 and HR 12 |
7 |
5 |
2 |
| 23. |
Jupiter conjunct, sextile, square, trine, inconjunct
or opposed HR9 and HR 12 |
9 |
3 |
6 |
| 24. |
Neptune and Jupiter conjunct, sextile, square, trine
inconjunct or opposed HR9 and HR 12 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
| 25. |
Neptune conjunct, sextile, square, trine inconjunct or
opposed HR9 |
21 |
12 |
9 |
| 26. |
Neptune conjunct, sextile, square, trine inconjunct or
opposed HR12 |
36 |
18 |
18 |
| 27. |
Jupiter conjunct, sextile, square, trine, inconjunct
or opposed HR9 |
26 |
13 |
13 |
| 28. |
Jupiter conjunct, sextile, square, trine, inconjunct
or opposed HR 12 |
26 |
12 |
14 |
| 29. |
Neptune and Jupiter conjunct, sextile, square, trine
inconjunct or opposed HR9 |
6 |
3 |
3 |
| 30. |
Neptune and Jupiter conjunct, sextile, square, trine
inconjunct or opposed HR 12 |
6 |
3 |
3 |
| 31. |
Sun-Pluto in the 12th house |
59 |
56 |
3 |
| 32. |
South Node in Pisces |
8 |
8 |
0 |
| 33. |
South node in the 12th house |
9 |
8 |
1 |
| 34. |
Aries Sun AND Taurus Moon. |
0 |
0 |
0 |
| 35. |
Sun-Saturn, As, MC in Water |
91 |
92 |
-1 |
| 36. |
Neptune square, opposed or inconjunct Sun |
21 |
8 |
13 |
| 37. |
Neptune square, opposed or inconjunct Moon |
21 |
8 |
13 |
| 38. |
Neptune square, opposed or inconjunct ASC |
13 |
5 |
8 |
| 39. |
Neptune in the 1st Retrograde |
1 |
3 |
-2 |
Discussion
Believe it or not it took less than an hour to test all of these 51
suggestions. Only three factors had at least a 6 point differential
between the alcoholic and control group. Notice that all of them involved
using both the primary traditional rulers and the modern co-rulers.
| Rank |
Factors |
Pct in Alcoholics |
Pct in Control |
Diff. |
Rule # |
| 1 |
Jupiter conjunct, sextile, square, trine, inconjunct
or opposed HR9 and HR 12 - PS Rulers |
27 |
5 |
22 |
21 |
| 2 |
Jupiter conjunct, sextile, square, trine, inconjunct
or opposed Sun, Moon, ASC, or ASC ruler (#4) - PS Rulers |
35 |
26 |
9 |
4 |
| 3 |
Jupiter conjunct, sextile, square, trine, inconjunct
or opposed HR 12 - PS Rulers |
12 |
3 |
9 |
3 |
Let us add the eight factors from the previous studies with a point
differential of at least 6. These are the top eleven factors that we have
found so far in Alcoholics.
| Rank |
Factors |
Pct in Alcoholics |
Pct in Control |
Diff. |
Rule # |
| C3 |
Sun or Moon squ, opp, semi-squ, inc and sesqui Mars,
Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto. |
90 |
44 |
46 |
C |
| C4 |
Sun or Moon in Water (squ, opp, semi-squ, inc and
sesqui) Mars, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto AND Sun, Moon, Mars,
Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, or Pluto in Water |
81 |
40 |
41 |
23 |
| R44 |
Jupiter conjunct, sextile, square, trine, inconjunct
or opposed HR9 and HR 12 - PS Rulers |
27 |
5 |
22 |
21 |
| J4 |
Neptune conjunct, square, opposed or inconjunct Sun,
Moon, ASC, or ASC ruler |
58 |
46 |
12 |
28 |
| C10 |
Mars squ, opp, semi-squ, inc and sesqui by any planet
in Pisces |
16 |
4 |
12 |
27 |
| R42 |
Jupiter conjunct, sextile, square, trine, inconjunct
or opposed Sun, Moon, ASC, or ASC ruler (#4) - PS Rulers |
35 |
26 |
9 |
20 |
| R49 |
Jupiter conjunct, sextile, square, trine, inconjunct
or opposed HR 12 - PS Rulers |
12 |
3 |
9 |
1 |
| C7 |
The ruler of the 5th or the 5th house cusp squ, opp,
semi-squ, inc and sesqui Sun-Pluto AND Sun-Pluto in Water |
31 |
24 |
7 |
C |
| C6 |
The ruler of the 5th or the 5th house cusp squ, opp,
semi-squ, inc and sesqui Neptune |
22 |
16 |
6 |
25 |
| C8 |
Mars squ, opp, semi-squ, inc and sesqui by Neptune |
14 |
8 |
6 |
26 |
| C11 |
Any planet, angle, or Moon's node at 11° of Cardinals |
22 |
16 |
6 |
12 |
J=Jungian Study; C=Carter Study; R=Reader Suggestions
Now I invite the readers to construct an astrological story that pulls
these factors together. What makes these factors come out on top and
others that seemed logical (astro-logical) not pan out? Here is where we
tap in to the creativity of all the people who visit us on the web – and
where our joint effort can really pay off. The Internet was originally
intended to help the military and academic institutions coordinate
research projects. Let's all use it to coordinate our astrology research!
– Mark McDonough: President, AstroDatabank Company
P.S. We can also assemble of a list of the factors that were more
prevalent among the control group than among the alcoholics. Presumably,
these negative factors are sobriety enhancing. We could probably find much
strong ones if we went fishing for them. These just popped out as the
least likely factors among alcoholics. They are negative because they are
more popular amongst the control group.
| Rule |
Top Factors for Sobriety |
Pct in Alcoholics |
Pct in Control |
Diff. |
| R19 |
Sun, Moon, Ascendant, Ruler of the Ascendant in
Sagittarius (#1) – Traditional rulers only |
24 |
30 |
-6 |
| R41 |
Sun, Moon, Ascendant, Ruler of the Ascendant in
Sagittarius (#1) - PS Rulers |
24 |
30 |
-6 |
| R45 |
Neptune and Jupiter conjunct, sextile, square, trine
inconjunct or opposed HR9 and HR 12 - PS Rulers |
6 |
12 |
-6 |
| R51 |
Neptune and Jupiter conjunct, sextile, square, trine
inconjunct or opposed HR 12 - PS Rulers |
2 |
8 |
-6 |
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by Mark McDonough

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