| Source Notes: |
In June 2004, it
appears that we have no authenticated birth time. Following are the
times that have surfaced, with some of the most recent additions
first:
In June 2004, just after
Reagan’s death, Jim Shawvan wrote to PT by e-mail: “I have known for
several years that Ronald Reagan had personally given his birth time
as 8:25 am to a friend of mine, Joy Rippeth, who was his first
astrologer….Thus the correct birth data for Ronald Reagan is Feb. 6,
1911, 8:25 am, Tampico, IL. Now that Reagan has passed away, I have
Joy's permission to reveal this information, and to reveal her
identity as well. She is retired now.” Jim attached correspondence
from Joy Rippeth who said she got the time of 8:25 AM from Ronald
Reagan himself and that she had advised him to be careful on March
30-31, 1981. Note that Reagan was shot on March 30. Steven Stuckey
confirms that Reagan’s birth certificate has no time on it and is
shown in a book published in 2001, called: “Ronald Reagan: The
Presidential Portfolio.” Steven writes: “’This book is ‘a history
illustrated from the collection of the Ronald Reagan library and
museum.’ A copy of the original State of Illinois birth certificate is
shown very clearly on page 2. There is no time of birth stated on the
certificate, nor is there a space on the document for the time. All
the other particulars are there, including date of birth as well as
parents names and occupations. What is most interesting is the date of
signing by the physician in attendance, Dr. H.A. Terry. That date is
August 14, 1942.”
Another source who wishes to
remain anonymous communicated with PT in April 2004. The source
reported a close relationship to the former president and Mrs. Reagan
and wrote by e-mail: “President Reagan had stated that his mother’s
water broke late afternoon, at home. His father went to get a midwife
to help with the birth. President Reagan said he arrived a little
later. It is known that his mother had a difficult labor. I have been
working his chart for years as a Leo rising sign at 13° 10, and the
chart works with all events known to me in his life. His chart was set
for 5:51 PM.” The source further states that, according to Nancy
Reagan, Patty Reagan [who gave 4:16 AM] could not have known the time
and was simply giving the same information that the author of "Dutch"
gave in his book, a time that Mrs. Reagan felt was wrong.
In 2002, the data of Ronald
Reagan for 4:16 AM CST, then thought to be correct, was given by his
daughter Patti Davis in Time magazine (February 4, 2002). In an
article on page 4, she states, "My father was born at home, at 4:16 AM
on February 6, 1911, after a long and difficult labor.” This is the
same time as Edmund Morris gave (as birth certificate) in his
biography, "Dutch: A Memoir of Ronald Reagan,” New York, Random House,
p.14 and p.688. As Morris wrote the book as a semi-fictional biography
to which he admits making up footnotes to add veracity to his
accounts, historians have severely criticized his ten-year labor and
the time of birth was largely questioned.
In prior efforts of the
community to find this data, the time was rectified to 3:43 AM by Joan
Quigley, Nancy Reagan's astrologer, from family information that he
was born "early morning."
American Astrology March 1976
states that it has a questionnaire returned from Reagan giving "early
morning."
Angel Thompson quotes a letter
from his office, May 1980, that "the Governor was born pre-dawn" (copy
in hand). Eve de Alberich called from Houston April 8, 1981 to report
that she had talked to Reagan's cousin (his mother's sister's
daughter) who has kept family records, and who said that she had no
record of Reagan's time of birth but it was early morning, pre-dawn.
(In June 2004, Eve wrote to PT by e-mail to say that the Reagan cousin
was Mrs. Carl Waters who was present during and helped with the home
birth. When the birth was over, Mrs. Waters said it was just beginning
to get light, just before dawn; the sun was not yet up. Based on her
investigation of sun rise that day, Eve uses 3:27 AM). Eve called
Doris Chase Doane who told her that 40 years ago Jane Wyman had a
chart done for herself and her husband, Ronald. She did not know the
time so they used an arbitrary 2:00 AM, which Doane and Righter had
been using since. Marion March, November 1984, had a long discussion
with the Reagan archivist who figured the birth was between 4:00 and
7:00 AM from deduction. March speculated 5:04 AM CST. The pre-dawn
birth was rectified to 3:46 AM by Betty Marks in AFA September 1980.
Jeff Jawer quoted Ray Merriman,
from Katherine de Jersey, reputed to be Nancy's astrologer: "Reagan's
ASC is 28 Scorpio," a time that computes to 1:56 AM, "rectified from
2:00 AM given to Kraum years ago by Reagan." LMR spoke to Katherine de
Jersey on July 7, 1988. Katherine said that she had called Nancy's mom
many years ago, who gave her Nancy's phone number. She called Nancy,
who was cool at first, but then told her that "as closely as they
knew, Ronald had been born at 2:00 AM." Van Courtland rectifies to
00:58:29 AM, given in Mercury Hour in April 1982.
Steinbrecher has a note from
Vital Statistics Bureau, "The county office won't give out the data
without a court order. We do know that Mrs. Reagan had problems in
delivery and there was a bad storm the night before." Ronald W.
Howland of the UK writes (May 2000) "Reagan has interested me for
years, so has the ongoing debate regarding his birth-time. Based on
Joan Quigley's description of his chart I too concluded that he must
have had the late mutable degrees on the angles of his chart. And I
have presented a chart based on an estimated time of 4.15 AM in my
book "A Chronology of American Charts," at present awaiting review in
the Mountain Astrologer. So it came as a pleasant, confirming,
surprise to find the chart on your site set of for 4.16. However,
after reading the commentaries on Reagan's chart, I was moved to
contact the Ronald Reagan Library who hold a copy of his birth
certificate. I thought you might be interested in their reply to the
specific question as to what time his BC showed. It is dated 10 May
2000:- "Dear Mr. Howland, "I'm sorry, I can't help. We have a
facsimile of Reagan's birth certificate on display in the museum and I
checked it - no time is given just the date. Ed Morris cites three
other sources for that information: Reagan's first autobiography
"Where's the Rest of Me"; the Tampico Tornado for February 10, 1911;
and an interview with Paul Nicely, the founder of the Reagan
Birthplace Museum. I checked the autobiography and there was no
mention of his time of birth. We don't have the Tornado issue or the
Nicely interview. Sorry, I could not be more helpful Cate Sewell,
Archivist." This as least seems to clear up the question as to whether
his birth-time was actually recorded, which seems not so according to
the above. Maybe some-one over there who lives by Tampico might want
to track down the relevant copy of the "Tampico Tornado" in the local
library, if only to see if that contains any worthwhile information,
or whether it too is another red herring. Please feel free to include
this information on your site if you deem it to be of use. Best
Wishes, Ron Howland (UK)"
Kt Boehrer wrote in November
2000, "In March of 1981 my articles in re to Reagan were published in
the Stellium Quarterly, an Astrological Journal in which I explained
how I had rectified his chart to a 16 Sagittarius ascendant. I had
over 30 events and dates that I used and the birth time of 3:24 AM
worked perfectly for every one of those events. The data I used was:
February 6, 1911, 3:24 AM, Tampico, IL. His PreNatal Epoch chart is:
May 25, 1910, 3:35 AM, Tampico, IL."
A time of 2:00 PM is also widely
used. Doris Chase Doane in Dell Horoscope gave 2:00 AM CST: Doris said
that she and Carroll Righter had been using that chart for 40 years.
Joylyn Hill in MH 12/1975 quotes Carroll Righter for 2:00 PM CST. The
same data was repeated by Pryor in AFA 10/1971 and Gallo in Celebrity
Horoscopes. Mayo in AFA 3/1976 rectified to 1:53 PM CST. Hammitt in MH
7/1980 reported that "Cancer ASC was printed in World Astrology
2/1941, by an excellent astrologer who sometimes does speculative
charts. John Bradford says that the time of 2:00 PM came from Adrianne
Dunn, but the rumor persisted that Carroll Righter was Reagan's
astrologer. Righter never gave out any data for any reason, but LMR
reports that a picture of Nancy and Ronald was among the pictures of
public figures on his grand piano, and he had a framed invitation to
the presidential inauguration on the wall. Frances McEvoy sends a
clipping in January 1987 that reported, "An 88-year-old man in Boston,
MA, claims to remember the day Ronald Reagan was born. He said that at
a school assembly one girl was late as someone in her family was
having a baby and no one could bring her to school. The baby was born
that afternoon and the birth was announced before the assembly was
over." Luc Gatto dowses with a picture and gets 2:32 PM. AFA April
1968 quotes "a close friend of the family" for 1:20 AM CST.
On September 3, 2000, Ed
Dearborn contributed his collection of 56 birth times suggested for
Ronald Reagan, some duplicates, from various astrologers. Most were
rectifications around the 2:00 PM time, or variations of the AM time
ranging from 1:00 AM to 11:00 AM.
Raul Davila, PMAFA, NCGR IV, San
Antonio Texas, writes on February 2, 2002, "In 1981 I began a 2 year
study of President Reagan's Birth Information. I made numerous calls
around the country and read every book, magazine, and newspaper
article I could obtain. I spoke with the curator of the Reagan birth
place museum in Tampico. I spoke with "Moon" Reagan, the Presidents
brother. Neal "Moon" Reagan was most delightful and I recall his
eagerly chatting for at least 30 minutes... He got out the Family
Bible which was in his possession and read all the birth data of
family members that was recorded. I finally collected with David
Dozier's help over 100 timed events in the life of Pres. Reagan. I
used this data to time his birth via multiple rectification methods.
There was and is NO Recorded time of birth for President Reagan. After
having completed my personal quest, I sent it to Nancy Reagan and
predicted to her that President Reagan would be easily re-elected in
1984 and would make historic progress in forging foreign relations and
Peace efforts. It was after this that I began to suspect that the
President had an Astrologer as many of his public appearances and news
conferences were at times with unusual astrological connections and
aspects. Moving forward in time... We have the book "What does Joan
Say" which documents the astrological work of Joan Quigly.
Incidentally the Time of birth that Joan Quigly [used] was unusually
close to the Time I had sent to Nancy Reagan in 1983." |
